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Post by Caryn Groedel on Feb 4, 2008 15:05:29 GMT -5
Caryn, Caryn, Caryn, ....WE were carried along? so sad you are so delusional...I'm laughing my ass off girl... Let me first start of by congratulating you for making the final 2....while still laughing my ass off. You and Gregg made a final three pack with me pregame. We all knew there would come a time at the finals and have to vote each other off. What I would like to know is why did you change your mind and vote out Katie, when it was Tom that was always the target? You put us all in the position to lie to Katie making you look good in the end. The way I see it is you turned on your final three alliances and on top of that you caused a tie in the final4. By causing a tie, you pretty much showed that Gregg, Tom or Me didn’t deserve to be in the final 3. You were willing to gamble our positions away by making us draw rocks. What was your purpose of creating that tie? You mentioned to Gregg that I wasn’t DESERVING to be in the final 3. What I want to know miss know it all, is DEFINE WHAT MAKES A PERSON DESERVING TO BE IN THE FINAL 3 AND WHY? I understand this is your first Survivor game, yet you go around acting like your gods gift to orgs. First off you do not bring previous games or personal life into the game. It’s not very mature to bully the jurors by making comments about your teenage son kicking Ibe’s butt. I do agree with you, YOU HAVE A LOT TO LEARN. This finale is all about coming clean and all I hear is you dancing around your questions. Why is it that you feel the need to put this all on Gregg saying he was the manipulator and got a free ride? What was your reason for turning on our three way alliance? You said I was sand bagging it, do you actually even know what that terminology means in the org world. I mean this is your first Survivor game and you act like you know it all. Do you honestly think the game is all about winning challenges, because you are so WRONG? It is about strategy, loyal commitments, and making bonds with the players and following through. Of course you have to lie sometimes; it’s the nature of the game. All you did was create drama and confrontation with the Ulongs. You have no idea how to strategize. You think all you have to do is win challenges to win the game. I am sure you will learn soon enough, that there are many ways to play this game and you can not play everyone the same way. You will not deserve to WIN every game you play. I don’t care if you win every dang challenge; the object of this game is to use all three elements to compliment your game play. I only saw you outplay us all. That doesn’t constitute a win in my eyes. It only showed your greediness to be such a challenge hog. The only game play I saw was strictly winning challenges and you know what they say in the game of survivor, if you have to WIN to stay alive in the game, your not playing the game to outwit. I never saw anyone win because they won challenges, but you wouldn't know that because you don't even watch the show. So my questions for you other then the ones above are, 1. What was your purpose of creating the tie in f4? 2. Since it was said that I didn’t deserve to be in the final 3 I would like you to define what makes a person deserving to be in the final 3 and why? 3. Please rate the jurors in who most/least deserves to be sitting next to you and why you chose NOT to take them with you? 4. Define the word Sand Bagging and tell me each player that fits the description and why? 5. Tell me honestly how you feel about each juror member and their game play? 6. What was your biggest flaw in the game?
Caryn, you mentioned in your answers to Jeff that you were bamboozled.
7. Please define the word Bamboozle and tell me who was responsible for bamboozling you? Then when you realize it was not you that was bamboozled, please list the people you did bamboozle to get yourself to the final2?
Gregg, Congrats to you in making final2. It really takes all kinds of people to play this game, and there aren’t many that play it well. You actually used all three elements in this game to get you to the final 2. You of all the people on the jury most deserve to be sitting in F2. Now things are being said that you got a free ride and that just shocks me. I don’t see it that way. It took our solid 5 alliance to get where we did and it’s not fair saying that you got a free ride when it was all 5 of us that played the same way. I just wanted to put it out there that each and every one of us equally deserves to be there just as much as Caryn. I can’t believe she is trying to take all the credit and making us look like we didn’t deserve to be there because we didn’t win as many challenges. It is a bunch of crap and I hope the jury see’s it. I guess it will all come down to who respects what kind of game play came from each of you. So what I want to start out by asking you Gregg is…. 1. Please explain what kind of strategy you had in this game? 2. List three moves you made to get you to the final2? 3. What was your reasoning for voting me off at final4? 4. Compare your game play to each jury member? 5. If you had a choice to bring anyone but me to final 2(because we all know that I did not deserve because I basically got here by sand bagging and happen to be on the same free ride as everyone else. LMFAO. So who would it be and why? 6. What makes you such a unique survivor?Thank you and please take all the time you need to answer, because this will be a big part of making my decision. Willard First off, I didnt say you were carried along, last I looked you were not here in the final 2, I was refering to Gregg, and I do believe that he used my obvious determination in the challenges and my loyalty to him to further himself along. Ibe said He is gonna take a gun and shoot me, you dont think that was a wrong comment to make, you turn it back on me, when threatening homicide is a felony in the real world. When I made the pact with you it was before the game really started and I never got to know these other people, I know now to never make alliances early inthe game, cause there are others that may be just as hard working or you end up having a bond with in the game. Like Wanda, I love Wanda, and I wish with all my heart that we had not lost that challenge where he was voted it, but we did and it was his fault and he was, but thats the game, having said that, there were other people in this game that were working very hard as well. And Tom and I formed a bond, and I felt in my heart that I could trust him more than you and I wanted him to stay around. I never told Gregg you werent deserving, I didnt trust you to take me if you had won the final challenge and therefore you needed to go. Gregg didnt put up much a fight the way I remember it. AS long as he was safe. Also it wasnt Katie that was to be voted off 5th it was you Willard, but Gregg had already voted for Katie and Tom and I tried to get Katie to vote with us cause we would have the majority, but she never responded and we werent sure what to do at that point and so we decided to go with the safe thing knowing that Gregg had voted Katie already and that Tom would be safe. I think someone that is active in the game and on the boards and tries in all the challenges is deserving of the F3, but then again I did not say you were not deserving, I said I didnt trust you, and I obviously was right not to cause you would not have taken me to the F2. I am answering the questions to the best of my ability and I am trying to come clean sorry if you dont like my answers. Gregg did encourage me to win all the challenges and I never thought for one second that he would deny that we played this entire game together and that it was "His Strategy" to lay low. I answered the reason I turned on the three way alliance is because I didnt trust you, I thought that you would pick Gregg and leave me on the jury and I worked hard in the whole game, and did not count on anyone else to keep me safe, there were challenges that you did not do so great in, yet we (meaning Gregg and I) kept you anyway, that was what I meant, Tom worked hard and so did Katie and in my opinion you should have gone F5, and I said that and I tried to do that but it didnt work and Katie left instead of you. Gregg was put in the position to lie to Katie only because he had voted early to insure that the target was not you, I didnt lie to Katie, I asked her to vote to keep Tom and get rid of you but she never responded. Its not my fault that you lied to her cause again at that point you were the target Willard, but Gregg saved you. I dont think I act like I know it all, trust me I have never said that, I am the one that said I havent watched the game much, and I was loyal till the end, I came in here with Gregg not you , you were the third and that choice in my opinion was made way too early and once I saw the others play I realized that and said I think others are more deserving, you may think I didnt use strategy but I got you voted out before F3 didnt I? I wanted to make it clear but Gregg wanted to force the tie, I was safe remember, when it came time to revote or pull rocks there was no way Gregg was gonna pull a rock, and he KNEW that I was not gonna vote out Tom, so he voted you out. I think that was a brilliant move on my part, cause it would no longer be you two against me. And you wouldnt know what I was thinking in the entire game cause we hardly ever spoke, the only time you even contacted me was after Katie was voted out to remind me of our final 3 deal, and trust me, after not having any communication from you in weeks there was no way I felt I owed you any loyalty, you never discussed anything with me, if we were in an alliance there would have been communication and there wasnt, so I did not feel I owed you a thing. And you can complain all you want about my winning challenges, but I did not see you win any, and I did what I felt I had to do to stay in the game, and trust me, if I hadnt had immunity all those times, I wouldnt be here in the Final 2 cause you and Gregg would have somehow convinced someone that I needed to be voted out, so complain all you want about my winning Immunity, but that is why I am here, and I did outwit you cause you were not Final 3 or Final 2, which was your "goal". 1. What was your purpose of creating the tie in f4? I think I answered that already, I didnt trust you and wanted to insure that you were voted out!
2. Since it was said that I didn’t deserve to be in the final 3 I would like you to define what makes a person deserving to be in the final 3 and why? I answered this up in the huge paragragh that you wrote but again, I think a person who is active, does well in the challenges is deserving.
3. Please rate the jurors in who most/least deserves to be sitting next to you and why you chose NOT to take them with you?
Funny you want me to rate the jurors and piss them off but you didnt ask the same of Gregg? Let me give you a blanket answer if any member of that jury was here in the F2 then I would say that they deserved to be here. I will take Jeff as my example, he had every opportunity to win immunity each and every time and insure that he couldnt be voted out (I know that is a long stretch but it is possible) if he was sitting here after doing that, he would be deserving of his spot! So everyone in the jury COULD have been F2. And if any of them were here, I would say they were deserving. You could have won immunity and voted me out, would that have made you any less deserving? I think not.
4. Define the word Sand Bagging and tell me each player that fits the description and why?
Again I touched on this earlier, I think that you felt that you had Gregg and I and you were going to just coast into the Final 3 and I dont think that you were trying as hard as you could have in these challenges, cause I have since learned that you have done very well in other games, and yet you won nothing here, I thought that you were just gonna step it up at the Final 3 and between you and Gregg beat me out for that immunity and sned me to the jury. Sandbagging means that you are much better at this game than you let on, and I dont think you gave these challenges your all, cause you would have been here and not me.
5. Tell me honestly how you feel about each juror member and their game play?
Again you want me to talk about the jury, I think Kim is a good player and that was why she left early, she was a huge threat.
Jeff seems like a great guy, I spoke with him at the merge and he sounds like a nice person, he was just on the wrong tribe at the end of the game.
Stephanie, I dont know her very well, we couldnt connect and its not from my lack of trying, and again she was on the wrong tribe in this game at the end .
Ibe, I dont like him, I think he says things that are wrong and he needs to grow up a bit, he could have tried and stayed in this game cause at the beginning of the merge he was the most liked of the other tribe, but he gave up and stopped playing the challenges.
Katie I think is a great person, darn good at these challenges and I think she could have gone all the way if that last challenge was just a little bit faster.
6. What was your biggest flaw in the game? My biggest flaw in this game is that I am an honest and talkative person, I thought I was playing this game with a friend and it didnt matter who won at the end as long as we made it together. I talked about my personal life and felt we had a bond and then I read these answers and I realize that I am as nieve as hell about these things, but thats ok, cause it is just a game afterall.
Caryn, you mentioned in your answers to Jeff that you were bamboozled.
7. Please define the word Bamboozle and tell me who was responsible for bamboozling you? Then when you realize it was not you that was bamboozled, please list the people you did bamboozle to get yourself to the final2?
I felt that I was in this game with a friend and that as long as the two of us were in the F2 it didnt matter at that point, but in reading some of Greggs answers I honestly think that "she" used me and my nieveness in this game, I am entitled to my opinion and I stated it, I was loyal to my tribe and then when it was down to the final 5 I think I let Gregg have too much control and decide too many things, until I forced him to vote out Willard, that was when I took a stand and the tie was never my idea, that was all Gregg saying let you and Tom fight it out amongst yourselves, as long as he was safe. BUT he wasnt safe cause the rock would have been all three of you and he changed his mind in a hurry! SO, I do feel that I was bamboozled into believing that things were different between Gregg and I, but again thats ok, its a game!
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Post by Willard Smith on Feb 4, 2008 16:46:39 GMT -5
Thanks for answering my questions. I am not complaining about the freaking challenges Caryn, I am simply showing that, these challenges you won were all posting challenges or you got some kind of help in the ones that weren’t. You had Katie do your puzzles, where as Willard did them himself. I am just letting the jury see you didn’t do shit. You did not need to have any kind of skill to win these challenges. All you needed is time to sit on your ass with your packed lunch and press your finger to the keyboard. There was nothing strategic you did to win the ones you won so quit sounding so above all of us because you outplayed us. Had the host gave us heads up on all the challenges, I would have had a hell of better chance at the posting ones. He also made up the rules as the game went on. There were a couple of challenges he just wanted to start over and extend. That to me is not worth my time to have to start it over. If I had sat around and watched the host come on to the site like you I would of have won them all as well. I played the UTR strategy and let you take all the wins, you selfish player. Had you known my real game play in games that really matter, then you would see that I am a well known challenge goddess. So here is a run down of your awesomeness in these incredible challenging challenges. #15 Caryn – Live Add and Subtract Stats in game. Caryn won by punching in numbers, where as Willard actually looked up the information. Caryn 4 mins (Tom gave you heads up on what to expect) Gregg 5 mins (also had an idea what to expect) Tom 9 mins (helped Caryn) Willard 15 mins I got NO help, that is why I got last. #14 Caryn - RAM was the Live Link challenge and Caryn was told to screen print the page because it was a memory challenge. #13 Katie - 2nd chance...it was a little bit of everything and actually mind challenging. #11 Caryn – Last Gasp mindless posting challenge #12 Tom - this was smashing plates...where we let Tom win #10 Gregg – Perching, posting challenge #9 Caryn - puzzle one that Gregg and Willard sat out and we lost and voted out Wanda. So there you have it, the stats might look good, but unfortunately you don't.
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Post by Caryn Groedel on Feb 4, 2008 17:05:11 GMT -5
Thanks for answering my questions. I am not complaining about the freaking challenges Caryn, I am simply showing that, these challenges you won were all posting challenges or you got some kind of help in the ones that weren’t. You had Katie do your puzzles, where as Willard did them himself. I am just letting the jury see you didn’t do shit. You did not need to have any kind of skill to win these challenges. All you needed is time to sit on your ass with your packed lunch and press your finger to the keyboard. There was nothing strategic you did to win the ones you won so quit sounding so above all of us because you outplayed us. Had the host gave us heads up on all the challenges, I would have had a hell of better chance at the posting ones. He also made up the rules as the game went on. There were a couple of challenges he just wanted to start over and extend. That to me is not worth my time to have to start it over. If I had sat around and watched the host come on to the site like you I would of have won them all as well. I played the UTR strategy and let you take all the wins, you selfish player. Had you known my real game play in games that really matter, then you would see that I am a well known challenge goddess. So here is a run down of your awesomeness in these incredible challenging challenges. #15 Caryn – Live Add and Subtract Stats in game. Caryn won by punching in numbers, where as Willard actually looked up the information. Caryn 4 mins (Tom gave you heads up on what to expect) Gregg 5 mins (also had an idea what to expect) Tom 9 mins (helped Caryn) Willard 15 mins I got NO help, that is why I got last. #14 Caryn - RAM was the Live Link challenge and Caryn was told to screen print the page because it was a memory challenge. #13 Katie - 2nd chance...it was a little bit of everything and actually mind challenging. #11 Caryn – Last Gasp mindless posting challenge #12 Tom - this was smashing plates...where we let Tom win #10 Gregg – Perching, posting challenge #9 Caryn - puzzle one that Gregg and Willard sat out and we lost and voted out Wanda. So there you have it, the stats might look good, but unfortunately you don't. You had all the same opportunity as me, and as long we were on the same side you thought everything fine, but because I didnt trust you and got you voted out now your upset. Get over it, its a game, and obviously you have been talking to Gregg cause we both packed a lunch in that last competition (you were out of the game at that time) cause it was post every 10 minutes and that was the only way to do it. If you had a better way well too bad you werent in the competition to show us your way! You think you know everything but you dont know anything, and the only one where I punched in the numbers was the last question cause I didnt know the answer and had lost track of where I was. Pretty ingenious of me if I must say soi myself, you could have done the same thing there but you didnt think of it, not my fault. But again Gregg told you, cause I sure didnt, why dont you just come out and say you are mad cause Gregg and you are buddies and you want her to win! You were supposed to be final 2 together and it didnt happen! You complain an awful lot for someone who says the challenges were mindless.............why didnt you do any better if they were so easy?? No Mind??? or were you waiting for something more challenging??? well while you were waiting, I played the game that we were given and got you voted out! So looks like you waited too long!!
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Post by Gregg Carey on Feb 4, 2008 17:18:53 GMT -5
I didn't pack a lunch. I had a job to go to during the day. As you recall, I was gone for awhile, then I had homework to do!!! Also, I NEVER told Willard that I was taking him to F2. It has always been YOU! I came out clean in the game for personal reasons. But you read into my answers wrong and started twisting things.
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Post by Gregg Carey on Feb 4, 2008 17:19:45 GMT -5
Gregg, Congrats to you in making final2. It really takes all kinds of people to play this game, and there aren’t many that play it well. You actually used all three elements in this game to get you to the final 2. You of all the people on the jury most deserve to be sitting in F2. Now things are being said that you got a free ride and that just shocks me. I don’t see it that way. It took our solid 5 alliance to get where we did and it’s not fair saying that you got a free ride when it was all 5 of us that played the same way. I just wanted to put it out there that each and every one of us equally deserves to be there just as much as Caryn. I can’t believe she is trying to take all the credit and making us look like we didn’t deserve to be there because we didn’t win as many challenges. It is a bunch of crap and I hope the jury see’s it. I guess it will all come down to who respects what kind of game play came from each of you. So what I want to start out by asking you Gregg is…. 1. Please explain what kind of strategy you had in this game? 2. List three moves you made to get you to the final2? 3. What was your reasoning for voting me off at final4? 4. Compare your game play to each jury member? 5. If you had a choice to bring anyone but me to final 2(because we all know that I did not deserve because I basically got here by sand bagging and happen to be on the same free ride as everyone else. LMFAO. So who would it be and why? 6. What makes you such a unique survivor? Wow! You really want to turn on each other huh Willard?
1. Please explain what kind of strategy you had in this game?
I came into this game without a plan. I did not know anyone, except for Caryn and Willard. (My past encounter with them is not BFF because we had played in HALF OF ONE game together. I was still getting to know them. The game needed bodies and I was recruiting.)
Strategy was to be active as much as possible, but not to dominate, to help Koror win Tribal Challenges. At the same time, learned everyone’s personalities and how they play. Info on players and the game itself , I did share with my pregame alliance of Caryn and Willard. After the merge, I then had to switch to thinking of myself and how to get further into the game using what I could. It was obvious that I could not win every challenge myself, but I could still help my F5 alliance to get further. Yes, I did use Caryn’s “naiveness” as she claimed, but not to the extent she’s making it sound. Everyone uses everybody's naiveness. She and I are at the F2, which was the goal.
2. List three moves you made to get you to the final2? 1. Voting for Tom to cause a tie. 2. Voting out Willard 3. Voting out Katie.
3. What was your reasoning for voting me off at final4? Caryn wanted Tom and Willard to be tied, so they can challenge each other for the F3 spot. She basically said “let them fight it out”. She was safe so she didn’t care. She put the F3 in danger by forcing a tie. It was evident to me that Caryn was throwing our F3 away. But I on the other hand wanted to save our F3 and a tie would give Willard a chance. So naturally I would not disagree. I voted for you because when Caryn found out that if there was another tie after revote, I would also have to draw a rock. Which meant I had a-third of chance of being gone. I was willing to take that chance - I did not want to vote out Willard. I had a better chance against him in F2 if it came to that. Both Caryn and I had a better chance against Willard at F2. Caryn would not hear of it because she did not trust Willard. She was basing on what she heard in another game about Willard, not how he played in this game. Let me clarify the F3 and Willard's role. I was up for it because having a "weaker" person in the 3 would guarantee Caryn or I a win should she and I got split. If I was gone, Caryn would take Willard and win, and same goes for me. I saw Tom more of a threat than Willard.
4. Compare your game play to each jury member?
1. Willard – I knew that he was using the UTR strategy. So I had to keep him very close to me.
2. Katie – She was a challenge threat at puzzles. She has come in way too close in second place just by a split second. And I couldn’t take the chance that maybe one of the challenges up the road is a puzzle. Plus you are on a different time zone and that played into it.
3. Tom – He’s the nice quiet type. Got along with everyone and very likeable. This type of player you really don’t know what they are thinking. I knew he was close to Caryn, so I had to keep him close to me.
4. Ibrehem – I put him the highest of Ulong because I think we would have made a great team if given the chance. He provided me with information that I needed. I wanted to keep him in because he basically gave up on the challenges. Also, should there be a flip, he was coming with me.
5. Kim – Yes, I found out that you were a threat through Ibrehem. And I didn’t want to find out how big of a threat you would be if you had the chance.
6. Jeff – I don’t know your personality to make proper assessment. I do know that you did speak to Caryn a couple of times. 7. Stephenie – You were the only one that I had an argument with before merge. Game play was to keep you in because you basically gave up on challenges.
5. If you had a choice to bring anyone but me to final 2(because we all know that I did not deserve because I basically got here by sand bagging and happen to be on the same free ride as everyone else. LMFAO. So who would it be and why? I would choose someone that I could beat. Looking back, I would probably bring Ibreham. Because he caused some tension in the game and that would definitely worked to my advantage.
6. What makes you such a unique survivor?
I’m a unique survivor because I was able to adapt to the changes of the game, and was able to use unfortunate circumstances and personalities to my advantage. I was able to shift from one strategy to another when needed. I found a new route to get further into the game since the challenge area was already taken. I was the ‘passive aggressive’ player.
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Post by Gregg Carey on Feb 4, 2008 18:07:03 GMT -5
Ok, I have to clear up a few things here. Since I'm coming clean with this, I'll clear up what has been bothering Caryn. This was supposed to be a game with a peaceful ending with 2 friends making it to the end. Obviously, my answers was read into much by Caryn and I'm going to clarify a few things. Caryn and I are friends, but new friends. And my strategy has upset her and I want to clarify a few things.
Ibreham was the one who told me about Kim's threat. I in turn told Caryn and it got passed onto the rest of Koror. And it was mentioned it in my confessional as well. Ibreham's "shooting" spree was uncalled for, and I had nothing to do with that. I did not tell him to do that or anything about Caryn or Koror. It's a game so I hope that the comment was just that...game.
Willard - what I told you about packing lunch and sandbagging, that was all in passing conversation. I did not know it would be used in the questioning. I did not have a F2 deal with you. The subject never came up.
I did vote for Katie instead of Willard when Katie left. Only because I saw Willard as a non-threat player. I did vote first and others followed.
The F2 has always been with Caryn. We both did what we did to get here. I took a different route and I play different. It is all a game and it should be left on the computer when you log off. So, if I hurt anyone for my style of playing, I apologize for hurting your feelings, but I will not apologize for the way I play.
I hope this will clear some confusions. If anyone has anymore stuff they want cleared up, just post it on the board.
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Post by Gregg Carey on Feb 4, 2008 18:31:47 GMT -5
Also, I wanted to add that people play each game differently. It really depends on who is playing in the present game. You can have the same allies and people playing, and the game is still different. So I may play behind the scenes here, but in another game I will be a challenge hog. It depends on the game, the host, and the other players. That is the reason why I will not apologize for my game play in this game.
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Post by Caryn Groedel on Feb 4, 2008 18:46:21 GMT -5
See Ibe, hate me all you want, but I never lied, it wasnt me! As far as voting out Katie that is a lie Greg and Katie can back me up here, I sent her a PM to vote out Willard and she wouldnt do it and never responded, I am sure she thought she could trust you and Willard, but now she knows the truth!!
Its a game and I am not sure what you guys want to say here but I get it.............its a game. I played the best I could and I got to the finals!
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Ibrehem Rahmen
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Sixth Place
Koror can go drown in the ocean. K? Tnx. Bye.
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Post by Ibrehem Rahmen on Feb 4, 2008 18:56:57 GMT -5
Caryn, I do not hate you.
I merely enjoy making your stay in this game hell.
It's quite entertaining.
One more thing that I don't quite understand, you said that I could have done better if I participated in challenges, yet you voted off the others because they were threats...I don't get that.
Gregg, you're a dumbass and might have lost my vote for that.
So now, I need a question to break the tie.
Caryn: Do you still hate me, even though I admit that I made a wrong judgement, although you never tried to talk to me about it with the "maturity" level of yours?
Gregg: Do you think you still deserve my vote after just saying that I told you Kim was a threat? I don't quite remember ever saying that. But please provide proof.
Both: Please tell me what you think about gay marriage rights. Also, describe each juror in one color.
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Post by Caryn Groedel on Feb 4, 2008 19:21:06 GMT -5
Caryn, I do not hate you. I merely enjoy making your stay in this game hell. It's quite entertaining. One more thing that I don't quite understand, you said that I could have done better if I participated in challenges, yet you voted off the others because they were threats...I don't get that. Gregg, you're a dumbass and might have lost my vote for that. So now, I need a question to break the tie. Caryn: Do you still hate me, even though I admit that I made a wrong judgement, although you never tried to talk to me about it with the "maturity" level of yours? Gregg: Do you think you still deserve my vote after just saying that I told you Kim was a threat? I don't quite remember ever saying that. But please provide proof. Both: Please tell me what you think about gay marriage rights. Also, describe each juror in one color. No I dont hate you, the mother in me refuses to hate anyone and I guess since I knew the truth, I partially understood your reasoning but you wouldnt believe me when I told you the truth! I kept trying to tell you it wasnt me. I do have to say though, that my son read what you wrote and I cant say the same for him, cause he loves his mother and thinks that you were a dick to say what you did to me over a game!! Gay marriages, well I think marriage is a personal right, and that every single person is entitled to that right whether they are black, white, grey, purple, man or woman. Also they are entitled to love whomever they choose, love is blind, dontcha know! Kim: Yellow cause she was smiling so brightly in the avatar picture Jeff: Purple cause he seemed calm and cool and relaxed most of the time. Stephanie: Pink cause she sorta seemed like a girly girl to me, not sure if that was the person herself or the character on the show (cause I actually did like Stephanie in the survivor and watched her a few times) Ibe: Red, cause you are so angry and righteous all the time, even when you are wrong Katie- blue, she lives across the ocean from me and I think of the beautiful tropics where she lives (actually its a he BTW) and the beautiful beachs and the many shades of blue water Willard: GREEN cause she is obviously jealous about something! Tom: Grey cause that is a mixture of black and what together and with him everything is just what it seems, the nicest person, everything was above board, and no drama so grey.
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Post by Caryn Groedel on Feb 4, 2008 19:29:27 GMT -5
One more thing that I don't quite understand, you said that I could have done better if I participated in challenges, yet you voted off the others because they were threats...I don't get that. I forgot to answer that one, see people liked you and if you had tried to win yourself immunity there was a chance that you could have fit right in, and it is clear now, that Gregg would have splintered off with you had he gotten the chance (I didnt know that but he said so himself in that posting) BUT you could have won the immunitys just like I did, but you gave up and refused to try, that upset me cause I would have liked to see what you really had in you, and how far you would have made it had you tried!
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Post by Gregg Carey on Feb 4, 2008 19:31:34 GMT -5
Caryn, I do not hate you. I merely enjoy making your stay in this game hell. It's quite entertaining. One more thing that I don't quite understand, you said that I could have done better if I participated in challenges, yet you voted off the others because they were threats...I don't get that. Gregg, you're a dumbass and might have lost my vote for that. So now, I need a question to break the tie. Caryn: Do you still hate me, even though I admit that I made a wrong judgement, although you never tried to talk to me about it with the "maturity" level of yours? Gregg: Do you think you still deserve my vote after just saying that I told you Kim was a threat? I don't quite remember ever saying that. But please provide proof. Both: Please tell me what you think about gay marriage rights. Also, describe each juror in one color. I know that you told me. It was during an aim convo and I don't have those saved. This game was not active enough for me to keep notes. If you don't believe me then fine. And Tom and Willard backed it up as having seen Kim performed in previous games. But no I don't have proof. Gay marriage? Well, even if I did proof to the above, this question will kill it. I don't believe in it. I have nothing against homosexuals, in fact they do great hair on me, but as for the marriage. No. Katie - pink, just because she's bubbly. Tom - black, the quiet black knight Willard - white, because he's old Ibreham - purple, because he's gay Jeff - blue Kim - red Stephenie - brown (last 3 no reason) just because that's what came to mind first.
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Post by Gregg Carey on Feb 4, 2008 19:32:52 GMT -5
You know, at this point in the game, I really don't care who wins. I came clean on purpose because I was feeling bad that I hurt a friend with my game play. I hope she understands. You all vote for how you want. The win means nothing to me if I'm going to lose a friend over a game.
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Ibrehem Rahmen
Full Member
Sixth Place
Koror can go drown in the ocean. K? Tnx. Bye.
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Post by Ibrehem Rahmen on Feb 4, 2008 20:18:18 GMT -5
Gregg! That's so hurtful!
Caryn, tell ur son his mom is better than Gregg and that not to take anything personally on this, I just play the role of who I decide to be in these things. You just happened to choose the Bitch.
Purple because I'm gay? Yuck. I prefer Lilac as the correct term. Kidding kidding, I'm not that gay. Lime Green babyyy vibrant and loud.
I deserve marriage just as much as you. Hair Stylist...so stereotypical of you!
Tsk tsk.
*Pulls out gun* *Shoots Gregg* *Goes to Canada to get married* *Sends Gregg a purple postcard*
Saying,
"Congratulations Caryn!"
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Post by Gregg Carey on Feb 4, 2008 20:23:21 GMT -5
Whatever Ibreham. Nothing against you. Purple is fine...it's my color :-)
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Post by Caryn Groedel on Feb 4, 2008 20:57:53 GMT -5
Ibe, you need to stop with the nasty remarks, pulling out a gun and shooting someone, even in a game is wrong! We done need the drama Agree with someone or dont agree with someone but we dont need the physical threats or the violence, its not becoming of you or anyone! and no one needs a bitch, so act like everyone else and decide for yourself how you want to vote, and stop insulting and hurting people cause this is only a game! P.S. My favorite color is purple! P.S.S. See theres my mature side
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Ibrehem Rahmen
Full Member
Sixth Place
Koror can go drown in the ocean. K? Tnx. Bye.
Posts: 196
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Post by Ibrehem Rahmen on Feb 4, 2008 23:21:23 GMT -5
Lol.
BUT ITS FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Katie Gallagher on Feb 5, 2008 4:13:49 GMT -5
this is all twisted.... i hope my vote wins lol
i have not decided though hheheheh can u give me a number from 1-100
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Post by Gregg Carey on Feb 5, 2008 6:54:03 GMT -5
50
Ok, so you are doing a Kelly Goldsmith?? LOL You know, I was actually wondering if anyone was going to do that LOL
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Post by Caryn Groedel on Feb 5, 2008 8:19:21 GMT -5
this is all twisted.... i hope my vote wins lol i have not decided though hheheheh can u give me a number from 1-100 21
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